Nigerians have been told to stop complaining about the
present economic hardship in the country and accept their fate with
equanimity.
HOW would you assess President Muhammadu Buhari’s administration in the last one year?
Let me say that we are watching like some people would say, may be it
is too early to judge or comment on this government. Let’s give him
more time, but I will say that Buhari needs to buckle up especially on
the power issue.
Power supply has not been encouraging. Many industries are closing
down while millions of jobs are being lost to erratic power supply.
Many Nigerians that are self-employed including artisans like
welders, hair dressers and others who depend on efficient power supply
to sustain their small scale ventures have been rendered jobless as a
result of poor power supply. This has been a big minus on the part of
the administration. Increasing unemployment and job losses occasioned
by poor power supply should be a source of concern to the president and
his team.
That means the administration has not met your expectations …?
Cuts in… They are far from meeting my expectations. What are
we talking about? Democracy and governance is about delivery of
dividends of democracy, but I have not seen this government doing that.
Where are the dividends of democracy?
That means you are on the same page with those who believe or are saying that hardship is on the increase in the country?
I totally agree with them. Hardship and suffering have increased.
Many Nigerians today are hungry and angry. Even now, the rich also cry.
The bad economy has worsened the situation with many Nigerians finding
it increasingly difficult to survive. The situation can’t continue
like this, government must find a remedy.
What is your assessment of efforts by Buhari’s administration to tackle corruption?
Tackling corruption is a noble idea. Corruption for long has held
Nigeria down — it has been cancerous vice which has permeated our
society’s fabrics, and everybody agree that there is a need to tackle
it.
While Buhari’s government deserve kudos for taking the bull by the
horn, however, the efforts being made to tackle the vice should be seen
to be transparent. There should be no room for doubts or impression
created that the fight is one-sided.
Already some people have made the observation that those being
investigated and charged to court are mostly PDP members. Are we
saying that APC is a party of saints?
Investigation and trial of corrupt people should go round. It should
not be limited to a particular group. Nobody should be seen to be above
the law. Nigerians would believe that Mr President is sincere with his
fight against corruption if the whole thing can go round. Corrupt
people should not be shielded because they belong to a particular
political party or because they are related to somebody. The whole
exercise should be devoid of bias.
The arms fund scandal otherwise known as Dasukigate has
been generating so much controversy with the revelations of
mind-boggling looting and how money meant for arms purchase was shared
among individuals, what is your view on this?
It is really unfortunate that money meant for arms purchase was
diverted, but I believe true probe should be carried out because most of
the people alleged to have collected the money have claimed that they
don’t know what the money was originally meant for. They claimed that
they were told that it was for election purpose. EFCC should do a
diligent job on this issue so that innocent Nigerians are not
unnecessarily punished.
I will never condone corruption or encourage it, whosoever is found
guilty after a transparent investigation should be made to face the
music.
The issue of whether former President Goodluck Jonathan
should be interrogated or not over the ongoing probe into the arms
fund has been generating controversy, where do you stand on the issue?
I believe we should tread carefully on this issue. I know a lot of
people out there would like to ridicule the former president,
especially his political opponents. But for me, I think we should treat
this man with dignity and respect. This is a man that saved Nigeria from
a possible civil war by admitting electoral defeat even when collation
was still
going on. With that singular action, he earned global accolades.
Nobody is above the law, but EFCC and those in government now should
look at the issue very well to determine whether it is absolutely
necessary to question Jonathan. National interests should override
political interests.
Your organization, OPC and other militant groups that were
awarded contract to protect oil pipelines by Goodluck Jonathan’s
administration were reported to have been mobilized with billions of
naira, yet, the groups, including OPC have been claiming that the
Federal Government is owing them and that President Buhari is being
vindictive by not paying them, what is your take on this?
It is true that the Federal Government is owing us and I can’t understand the reason for this other than political vendetta.
Contrary to the wrong impression that the contract was given to us
as a kind of political patronage to entice us to work for Jonathan’s
re-election, I make bold to say a categorical NO to this.
A job was given to us to secure the pipelines from attacks by
vandals, and we undertook this job, and did it to the best of our
ability until President Buhari decided to revoke the contract after he
was elected president.
But before he took over, we were being owed outstanding sums of money
which were to be paid to those people we recruited to guard or secure
the pipelines.
Those people deserve their wages. For instance, I recruited over
11,000 personnel to secure oil pipelines under my own jurisdiction.
Is the federal government saying that our claim is not justified?
Are we demanding for something unusual by asking that money we are to
give to our workers to be paid to us? Even the revocation of the
contract was unilaterally done without consulting us. We were
rendering national service by protecting those pipelines, but for
reasons best known to Buhari, he revoked that contract. I bear him no
grudge or malice but the Federal Government should pay money being owed
us. We deserve it because we worked for it.
But some people believe that OPC and other groups’ leaders
collected billions of naira from the Federal Government during
Jonathan’s tenure and that you people should rather keep quiet instead
of making noise?
Me collected money from Jonathan? Never! I challenge anybody that has proof of such to come forward and expose me.
I’m a very careful person. Since they have been making all their
revelations about who shared this and that, has my name ever come up? I
have no skeleton in my cupboard, and I have nothing to fear or hide.
I’m holding talks with my lawyer on the next line of action to be taken
if federal government and the NNPC refused to pay us our money. I will
drag federal government and NNPC to court over this issue if they remain
adamant.
Tongues have been wagging over your recent romance with
Major Al Mustapha, the Chief Security Officer to late Gen. Sani
Abacha, a man that sent you to jail for some years for joining the
protest against his dictatorial regime, and under whose watch, several
cases of assassinations of prominent Nigerians took place. It is
alleged that Al Mustapha has ‘settled’ you with a large sum of money and
that is the reason you have decided to embrace him, how true is this?
That is an insult. It is very provocative. Mustapha settled me?
Haba! At over 80 years of age, what am I looking for again? I know a lot
of Nigerians are still bitter about Al Mustapha role in Abacha’s brutal
government – I was a victim myself — I was tortured and sent to jail — I
almost lost my life.
I’m a Christian, and my Bible teaches me about forgiveness, I
decided to forgive Al Mustapha and that is it. I didn’t collect a dime
from him. Again, if anybody has proof that money changed hands between
us, they should come forward with evidence. Mustapha is still alive, you
can also ask him the question.
Is it true that both of you exchange visits?
Yes, Mustapha has become a regular face in my house and I have also
gone to Kano to visit him. Mustapha is a nice young man who respects
elders.
What will be your advice to Nigerians who are eager to enjoy the dividends of democracy?
Nigerians voted for Buhari. They voted for change. The hardship and
suffering they are going through now is part of that change. They should
not be complaining.
Instead of complaining, they should be praying for Buhari. Nigerians
should pray for him, and for Buhari himself Nigerians were cheering him
initially but now they are getting despondent. Buhari should not wait
until Nigerians start jeering at him as a result of failed promises.
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